I Hate Seattle

I Left My Depression in Seattle


I feel like the only people who discredit the Seattle freeze are the ones who freeze people out of their lonely lives. It's real, people don't talk to nor do they want to talk to you. There's a wall where people feel like they don't need you, and will go out of their way to prove it.

I moved to Seattle (technically, the shitburb of Puyallup). Everyone already had their dead set group of friends and I had to mix and mingle between several groups throughout my teenage years. But by my twenties, I had no friends. They were either too shady or non-existent.. One common factor is that they would all flake. Any coffee dates, plans to do something outside of work would be met with silence the day of, then later a sorry, xyz happened. Like shit, you could have texted me right?

As a result, I lost confidence and really became a recluse. Got to the point where I developed anxiety from even interacting with people in the store.

I got out when I had the first chance, now living overseas and feeling like I somehow escaped the twilight zone. Lucky I got out before I had the chance to off myself.

Oh and btw, tech companies don't even want to deal with native Seattleites. And for good reason. The education standards suck. Unless you go to UW or fork 6 figure debt for a private university, you're shit out of luck competing with the kids from elsewhere in the country, hell kids from Europe and Asia get shipped in all the time for Engineering jobs.

I applied to several companies for years to no avail. Once I left, my LinkedIn is full of recruiter mail from, guess who. All the big tech corps based in (guess where...) Seattle.

Posted by CeeLoTeamSix 4 months ago in People, traffic, Freeze - Permalink



Ahhhhh boy back in Seattle. I hope I can give a different perspective as someone born and raised in the greater Seattle area with multiple escape attempts. Well everything you read on here is true so I don’t need to beat a dead horse. I've lived all around the US and in a couple Asian countries. What I’ve noticed as to why people are here, why people can't get out and why people come here seems to be the common denominator of money.

Sadly while many parts of the country are eroding, the automation of the global economy is largely being led by Seattle. This means that competition for resources has become inhumane. To be human is second to the pursuit of improving singularity. Sadly the dysfunctional mutations that have given some the ability to succeed in this environment comes with a unpleasant skill set. Those that can thrive in the dark behind computers and would rather communicate through an API (Application Program Interface) are the ones with the means of being successful at a human level. Real humans that want to have sex outside, get a tan, go for a run without getting wet, physically talk to other humans are second class citizens and must compete for poorly paying jobs.

While I was in Asia I attempted to invent strip poker for the internet with my knowledge of how many desperate men there are in places like Seattle. With no discernible Female population places with money like Seattle would love to play online poker with strippers at a site like strip or tip d0t c0m. But its not that easy. I went cash flow negative for too long and couldn’t pull investment from Asia so I was forced to return to this hell for an unforeseeable amount of time.

If it was easy to make money in another place you would be there! Its not and that’s why you are here reading this right now. If you can find remote work you can live off a much smaller income in a incredible part of the world with an extremely cheap cost of living. But getting remote work is difficult. My main suggestion to people is to get something started before moving. As hard as that is if you don’t have something to move to, or with, then you may end up back in Seattle. So if you want to teach English in a foreign country make sure you have a skype interview and a contract in place before you buy that plane ticket. You would be amazed if you knew how many people have ripped me off in the past under the false pretense of a English teaching position. If you have some type of remote business make sure you have some positive cash flow before you start dreaming. It’s extremely easy to buy a skype number with a Seattle area code and make calls from Asia at night. If there is something you can do from the phone then using skype internationally could be your ticket! If you are having a hard time putting one of these things together then try to outsource yourself. Visit companies based in Seattle that do some type of customer service that can be done on the computer with an internet connection. Tell them you can offer a better service for cheaper as you will be living in asia. Or maybe you have money already and you need a really solid investment like strip or tip d0t c0m which will be a multimillion dollar company in the near future. If you want to talk about your shitty situation or invest in a new industry email me at james at strip or tip d0t c0m.

Good luck Seattleites and don’t jump off a bridge! Somewhere the sun is shining right now!

Posted by Hell Finder 4 months ago in You can make it OUT! - Permalink

The Worst Place to Live


I have lived in the Seattle/Olympia area for 1.5 years. I originally left from Oklahoma to escape what I thought was a terrible environment. Little did I know I was moving into the worst city/area in the country. There is no reason to travel here unless 1. You intend to torture yourself or someone else 2. You are training to become a douchebag 3. You are already a douchebag and would like to be around other douchebags.

1. No Backbone

People that had before complained incessantly about their job or other aspects of their life will quickly show their hypocritical nature if they stand to benefit. For instance, I have seen individuals talk shit about a company for a month straight, and then once promoted, abandon their “values” altogether and get upset when other coworkers aren't suddenly "bro" about the workplace. No one here seems to care, either. What I mean to say, individuals do not hold by their convictions here and do not care about integrity. Jumping on the bandwagon is the most important thing.

2. No sense of style, creativity or critical thought

A follow up to the band wagon characteristic, “individuals” here are hardly that. These are not intelligent, engaging, useful contributors to society. These people seek to debate the frivolous details or put their nose into your business rather than examine their own lives.

3. Everyone is preoccupied with how things appear as opposed to how things are

Vibes are more important than values. Nothing runs too deep here which results in virtually every aspect of life being devoid of substance or meaning. Like so many terrible characteristics of the Puget Sound, this attribute is difficult to put into words.

4. Cloistered lifestyle leads to lack of cultural insights or ability to navigate social situations

People here have not traveled much or lived outside the area long, and it really shows. I think the “Seattle Freeze” is just a mechanism people here employ to keep transplants from finding out how truly lame they are.

5. Passive aggression reigns king

No one is direct about anything. If someone at work has a small issue or concern, expect them to gossip to someone who will tell someone to tell another person to mention it to you in passing. Everyone from age 16 to age 80 behaves more or less the same. It’s especially strange to see professors or educated peoples behaving like kids throwing a temper tantrum.

6. Incompetence is everywhere

Practically every aspect of daily life is a nightmare. The few people who do work for a living are terrible at their jobs but blissfully unaware of it.

7. Forget about sex

If you ever enjoyed sex, or the vague prospect of it, forget that now. The people here are not interested in sex. The women behave strangely and will flirt to gain your attention, but it will never go beyond that. A big part of this has to do with how co-dependent people are here. Women and men tend to date whomever they went to high school with for years, and when that fails, someone else is already in line. There must be 4 men for every woman here, facilitating a situation in which men have to do all the work, put out all the effort, receive zero reciprocation and smile in spite of it. The way women treat their men here is horrendous. Mixed with the feminist sentiments of nearby colleges, it creates men who are thoughtless cowards, basically operating as puppets for their bitter, critical, ineffectual, smelly, wretched girlfriends.

8. Housing is a joke

Finding an apartment is ridiculous. In Washington, third-party verification companies hold all the cards. A renter will present their outrageous criteria to On-Site or Sun Screening, and 4 days and $42 bucks later they will tell you “We’re sorry, we can’t let you live here.” If your credit score isn’t high enough it’s because you don’t make 4 times the rent. At other places, you cannot make more than 2 times the rent (how the fuck is that possible?) Beware. Apartments will claim so long as you work it will be fine, but a few days later ask for a massive double deposit, or a co-signer from the area, and that’s if you’re lucky.

In summation, avoid this place forever. The people are too far gone to be helped. I’m so glad to be going back home to Oklahoma where people are at least slightly practical, logical, emotional and human.

Posted by robertkc256 4 months ago in worst city, worst people, worst behaviors, worst music taste, the end of evolution - Permalink

I thought I was the only one that feels the majority here is a Sociopath



I am really glad I found this site. For a quick minute, I thought I was the only person in Seattle who realized how Sociopathic and Sadistic the majority of the general public can be here.

Funny enough, I always wanted to move here. I thought this was a step forward to a place where people respect intelligence and intellect. Where being a REAL individual is openly accepted.

I have found that most here are content with process of destroying each other which I find uncharacteristically disturbing for a city that prides itself on democracy and advancements in Psychology and Psychiatry.

Even a large portion of homeless people here win favor with non profit organizations by ousting each other.

I do not really think that it is the weather which tends to be dark for most of the year here that makes people this way. The social environment here of a dry cut line between the insanely rich and poor makes it difficult for people to survive. Most corporations treat thier employees like machines. They do not encourage healthy competition or real team connection. Most people have a facade that is a personality front for survival. Seattlites are afraid of speaking thier real mind and are quick to shut down if anyone goes against the known but unsaid rule of restricted expressive thought.

When I lived in the East Coast, I spent time with friends, went to movies, comic book shops, ate at my favorite restaurants, went to comic book conventions...And etc..etc...etc..In addition to my other favorite hobbies.

This place is full of people that are like the walking dead that move towards whatever they need for sustenance. I would not want to hang out with a majority of the people I encounter on any given day. Ever.

Hopefully, sometime in the future I will move again. Life is too short to live in hell.

Posted by Mtrgrlcode7 5 months ago in Complainers, destructive personalities, intrusive, self absorbed, diminished hearts, lack of compassion, egotistical, robotics, preprogrammed reactivate responses. - Permalink

faded suns


I left Hell aka washington!
The nature was beautiful....
the people were cold and dead
I nearly went insane
something was sooo wrong!
wtf is the matter with these people here
never again
a land of greed
a land of cold mist
cold hearts, cold rain
no summer no sun no love
bitterness masked by money
buildings, people, dreams
dying in sad ways
grey pale light ice cold blandness
bitterness, haughtiness, icy akwardness
conformity veiled by illusion
illusion delusion black clouds
dark rift mercury poisoning
poverty visibly hidden
mind kontrol technocracy
the dark wrong desired future
gutted history worthless mediocrity
never again
delusional lies
wasted life shivering cold
jackets in summer
concrete moss dripping sickly
bad skin, silent forest
high black magick
aborted time high weirdness

Posted by Sunshine! 5 months ago in - Permalink

Snotty Gay people - even the bears!


Gay and have lived here for 20 years. The snobbery I meet up with from the guys whether in bars or a happening Gay Bear party is really depressing. I'm thinking that Meet Up groups might have more potential, but there is little selection, though there are thousands of other cool Meet-up groups in Seattle. This is a shot in the dark, but has anyone had better luck moving to Montana or Oregon? I love the NW, but the insane traffic, real estate prices and Seattle Freeze people are getting to be way too much. Suggestions?

Posted by Imleavingseattle 5 months ago in Snotty Gay life - Permalink

No one cares about Seattle


Ok, here's the deal: no one gives a shit about Seattle except Seattle.


Posted by Michael 5 months ago in Seattle - Permalink

Manifest Depression


Are you an underweight, introverted, ultimate-frisbee playing programmer who loves biking, hiking and yourself? Is an ideal Friday night smoking a bowl and then driving your sport wagon to a progressive political rally in the rain? Move to Seattle, friend - you're home. Otherwise, you might not fall in love with:

- A city so cold, but not cold enough for snow.
- People so cold, but not cold enough to be real.
- Darkness every day between October 1 and July 1. And that one instant every 19 days in the winter when you see the sun, it's so low in the sky that it only serves as a faded memory of a better time.
- A constant light rain that is so persistent you will no longer remember the fundamental differences between dry and wet.
- A self-righteous, politically-correct culture in which you could get fired by your employer and exiled by your friends for expressing any view outside the ultra-liberal company line.
- Girls that are determined to be masculine (those REI leggings don't hide your regret).
- Men that are determined to be feminine (that beard doesn't hide your lack of backbone).
- The worst drivers in the country. Statistically. There's no mandatory driver's education and the scars can be seen on most cars.
- Construction everywhere. Condos mostly. Clogging every roadway, creating noise and ugliness. We need a place to keep Amazombies at night after all.
- Seahawks fans whose ubiquitous "Sea-hawwwks" chant is reminiscent of your grandfather hoking a loogie onto the nursing room floor ("12th man" was stolen from Texas A&M, by the way).
- Rent prices that you would expect in the great cities of the world, not the afterthought of the west coast.
- Boring, bland food that is overrated and under-portioned (shout out to awesome salmon sushi - you're still cool).
- Entitled bikers who savor every opportunity to condescend and pose in their overpriced gear.
- Impossible, impenetrable traffic from 4pm-8pm, as if there was somewhere across town that people expect to be less depressing.
- Drab clothes and style. The color palette includes grey, black, light grey, dark grey and light black. And traffic-safety green.
- A deceptively thin beer culture - two mediocre breweries are the only thing on tap anywhere.
- A omnipresent passive aggression that underpins everything in the city outside of the three sunny months. It leads to a social stasis. A year will pass but you will only remember those three months.
- Every town immediately outside of the city for 100 miles in either direction north/south is strip-mall-ified hell.
- People are generally ugly, out-of-shape and unkempt, thankfully they're covered in baggy nylon rain gear for most of the year.
- Sneakily the most racist city you've ever lived in, but you're probably not black or hispanic, nobody here is.
- High sales tax. But it's needed to fix what-I'm-not-sure. Maybe to relocate homeless people one block in any direction.
- The only active nightlife is around Capitol Hill, which is quite dirty and has an awkward gay vs. bro underlying tension you can pretend doesn't exist.
- Roads are falling apart and busses are obnoxiously large and a public nuisance. Maybe try walking - just don't make eye contact with bikers or they might spit on you - but who can blame them? It is pretty damn depressing here.

Posted by Subaru Magnet 5 months ago in construction, traffic, rain - Permalink

Cool tips for living in Seattle


Welcome to Seattle! Hope you enjoyed your flight in(as long as you're not from California, we hate those guys, go back home). Today we're going over 10 COOL TIPS for living in a COOL TOWN like SEATTLE. Lets just jump right in.

1. Have fun: With approved activities us northwesterners take part in such as: video games, biking in an orderly fashion with a GROUP, I repeat, WITH A GROUP(only), and buying things. Also, Hempfest is in June every year, so if you enjoy good music* and smoking weed with antisocial teens/twenty-somethings in the grass, this is for you! Just don't have too much fun!

2. Be yourself :^): As long as you don't cause any trouble, we accept people from all walks of life! Just be sure to dress just like us(boys, that means no loose fitting anything! What are you? A plumber? Or homeless? :^) And girls, bust out those Northfaces and leggings!) talk just like us, and preferably, wear glasses. Oh and be white, please.

3. Become part of the thriving social scene!**: Seattleites are known for being incredibly social creatures. Do not be afraid when you receive a solitary nod in response to any given question, for a Seattleite, it requires much effort to respond verbally. Also remember, when using public transportation try to maintain your volume at a low decibel level, as Seattleites can become agitated and/or threatened if voice exceeds whisper level.

4. We welcome all races!: As long as you stay in your protected strongholds of Kent/Tukwila/Rainier Beach, we welcome you with open arms. Just don't come in our PCC's, please. And stay out of our parks.

5. Keep tidy at all times!: Despite Seattle being the birthplace of grunge and stoner rock, as well as kind of spawning most of the alternative scene in conjunction, we try to keep everything pristine here, and it would do nicely if you don't upset things, thank you :^). Your ripped jeans WILL be frowned upon. We loved it when that guy Nirvana did it, but you're not him silly. And we're actively trying to remove any 'city' elements from our town. That could bring problems like DRUGS(that aren't weed and craft brews I mean).. Though we should put a few safe injection sites around, because you know, we care. Enough to give them a surplus of supplies to use, and a clean place to meet for drug exchanges, because we got rid of the fucking tent city underneath the bridge that served as a containment center for the homeless, until we couldn't hide that anymore from the public.
Hopefully, with your cooperation we can become a more green, more pristine city, and we will be taking ballots soon for whether or not to outlaw spitting outside.

6. Learn to drive a whole new way!: You'll find yourself adapting to the roads minutes into coming here. If you're not backed up in rush hour, you'll find limitless opportunity to prove you too can be as aggressive as us(only behind the wheel of course), or so passive you become an obstruction on the road.

7. Get hype!!!: You can't keep up if you're not caffeinated from the moment you hit that starbucks drive-thru. If you get caught even slightly off guard, on the job or otherwise, you'll get that weird look of 'what a fucking idiot'.

8. You will find love***: Men in Seattle are so starved for affection that you will frequently find regular working class men and above with hamplanets, or better yet, their wonderful stay at home Aryan houseplant. Girls can get away with anything here. Even joblessness. Or grotesqueness. Or just an entitled/condescending attitude that at least 80% of the females embrace as themselves. Take note ladies, you're better than him! Just because.

Then again, most of the influx of tech workers are at least borderline autistic, so it's pretty fair all around.

9. Leave the past in the past!: No one wants to hear about where you're from. If you're not from Seattle, you're probably a dumbass. This is after all the last place where anyone in the world has sense, and clearly the best place. Ever. Seattle. Go Hawks.

10. Oh, introverted world :^): Best place hands down to hole up in an overpriced apartment with your spouse and just. Shut off from everybody. Until the next time you log into facebook and reassure your (possibly not real)friends "Yeah we should make plans sometime", until they eventually get the message, at which point you should now have the appearance of being 'normal' and having friends(+250 preferably) that don't bother you.

Just buttrock*

Social activity may be limited to eye contact on the street**

If you're female***

Posted by NativeSeattlite 5 months ago in Seattleites, traffic, cleanliness, coffee - Permalink

Uncivilized, rude, patronizing and condescending


So I moved here about three years ago to take a job. Mind you that I moved from Philadelphia in the East coast where people can be rude, but you never have to wonder what they are thinking about you. I think that the grittiness of the East Coast makes people more secure about who they are. Seattle natives (in my opinion) are lacking in culture and real-world experiences, and this I think is one of the main reasons for their anti-social and dysfunctional behavior. Ask a Seattle Native about hardships and they’d talk about a barrister messing up their coffee order, or being “triggered” by someone at the gym. Further exacerbating the problem is the fact that they mostly live in a bubble. In all honesty, no one outside of Seattle cares about Seattle. But to the locals, they consider themselves trendsetters and progressives. This is in fact the most racist city that I have ever lived in. On the surface it appears all great, but once you begin looking beneath that you realize that this city is laden in bigotry and hypocrisy. They talk about minorities as if they feel sorry for them and love taking on "pet projects" to save these people. But once the white power structure is challenged they begin showing their true colors. Not to mention that if you don't assimilate then you are left out in the cold. This is completely find by me, save for the fact that they go out of their way to remind you that standing out is not what they do in their "great city." "No on here uses umbrellas (which is a boldface lie), "we don't wear those," "we don't use those words".... and the list goes on and on.

Posted by Tow-Ken 5 months ago in Culture - Permalink

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