I Hate Seattle

meanness poorly disguised as helpfulness


Today I was shopping at The Gap, looking through the sale tops on a top rack. A girl came right up and put her arm in front of my face and looked through the tops I was looking at. I laughed because it was ludicrous and said "I hope I'm not in your way!" She said "Yeah, actually...I'll just get over here" and she went to my left side and stuck her arm in my face again. I said "Oh yeah, I definitely prefer your right elbow". She looked at me like what are you talking about, looked me up and down, then said "Oh I'm sorry" with that dead goat eye look they give you when you call them on something. I said "Well maybe you shouldn't do it anymore". She just continued to look through the tops to my left.

Before that, I was going in a revolving door and a woman coming out saw me but shoved the door from the inside anyway, knocking me sideways between the front and revolving door. I said "WTF?" She said with that smug look as she had never taken her eyes off me "Oh are you ok?" I said "Yes, luckily I am. She continued to stare at me with the dead goat eyes.

I was at McD's drive-thru on Friday morning, and the girl told me to pull up and wait for my iced mocha, so I pulled up 2 or 3 car lengths, LOTS of room, and even turned on my flashers. I was sitting there half awake when someone honked loud at me and pinned me so I couldn't have backed up anyway. I looked back at her, a blonde beauty queen, and she shouted at me why didn't I get out of the way. I said "Can you see my blinkers or are you blind?" She pulled up along side of me and turned fully around and said "You shouldn't be eating this food! You shouldn't be eating this food." Then she looked SO satisfied, so peaceful, a serene seattle smile on her face, knowing she'd said JUST the right thing, as if she'd told me helpfully that my brakelight was out or something to help. Her brand new car, her neat blonde ponytail and swan-like neck, oh what a perfect beauty, eh? I suddenly felt berserk, like I snapped, and I even turned my wheel fast, I might have rammed the side of her car, I was almost there. But the little girl had my iced mocha and was between me and the side of the building, and I would have hit her if I'd pulled out. It saved me. The girl was so sad when I told her what happened. I started sobbing immediately, feeling helpless. I cried all the way to work.

Posted by heartbroken almost 8 years ago in how women treat me in public - Permalink

It's Worse Than You Think


I've been here for six years. They have easily been the worst six years of my life. I came from Boston and have travelled and lived in a few cities in my 46 years. Seattle doesn't even rate, as far as cities go. It doesn't even qualify as a mildly entertaining tourist destination. It is a cold vacuum filled with druggies, drunks, transients, and from about 8:00 AM until 7:00 PM, boring clock-punchers with no conversational skills or sense of style.

But that's not the worst of it. The real problem is that Seattle and its populace are afraid and/or unwilling to face the issues that have kept the area stuck in some early 20th century time warp.

Criticism of the Northwest is frowned upon, ignored and turned against the critic as though he or she might have some kind of problem. This is, after all, a wonderful paradise, how dare you suggest that something is wrong with it? The reality is that it's far from paradise; the alcohol and drug abuse is amongst the highest in the nation, to say nothing of the suicide rate. But let's just keep pretending it's paradise and squelch any suggestions otherwise.

The public transportation is a sad joke. The lack of snow removal ("Hey, it never snows here!") is almost criminal. The drivers are the most passive and constipated of any I've ever encountered as they consistently drive under the speed limit to avoid a ticket by the outrageous number of traffic cops "keeping the streets safe". Ha! Where is the outrage? There is none. There is nothing wrong here in paradise.

Posted by itiswutitis almost 8 years ago in moss, slugs, denial - Permalink

5 myths about Seattle


1. People in Seattle are smart.
2. The city is unpolluted.
3. The city is well-governed.
4. It's sunny.
5. It doesn't snow.

1. People here are no smarter than any other larger city; in fact, looking at the city as the toilet it is, people may actually be dumber. They sure is dumb to accept all the police violence ('may I please brutalize you, young lady?)

2. There is sure a lot of human feces around.

3. Corrupt city, county, and state officials, especially judges, abound. Supreme court judges driving around drunk and getting off the hook? Check. Probably more corrupt than average as the intelligence level of the people in the state is below the US norm. Put 'corrupt judges seattle' in google.

4. Like hell it is.

5. Like hell it doesn't.

Posted by Tom L almost 8 years ago in corruption, police, judges - Permalink

the throat-clearing thing


Do you know about the throat-clearing thing? I didn't, for a long time. I did it at work all the time, because I have to clear my throat all the time. They were always so angry at me, but for a long time I didn't connect it with throat-clearing. WTF?

I can't stand this. It makes me so frustrated, because I either do it, or choke to death. Even coughing along with it, to show that I really do need to, makes them turn around and look at me like they hate me. Yet they have no problem coughing in your face as you pass them.

Hypervigilant creeps. This place is like a horror movie. Like The Omen, where the person is driving, and different people stare at him, making eye contact they hold for too long, from across the street, too far away to be natural, with satanic looks, or The Devil's Advocate - they turn into monsters for a second, until you look back and they're "normal" again.

Oh, and, have you noticed that, if you ever call them on something, it's all turned around like you did something bad. They get all polite with that shark-tooth smiley face. I also can't stand the closed mouth default face "smile" they do, where they pull their bottom lip up over their bottom teeth and pull up the corners of their mouth. It looks like they have a mouthful of something and got caught. This is the way pigs smile. Also, the way people with no teeth smile. Gerning. Also, the girls think it's cute to talk with their mouth full.

And they don't trust you. This makes me want to cry. I can't stand that, because I am an honest and trustworthy person and it's cost me a lot in my life, but I always felt it was worth it. I am a slightly older woman, girl, whatever, I dress well, I look nice...But they always think I'm going to cheat them or take something or try to get away with something or I'm lying, or trying to get extra drugs at the pharmacy or pull something somewhere GOOD CHRIST it never stops.

Posted by heartbroken almost 8 years ago in hypervigilant assholes? - Permalink

they will knock you off the sidewalk


Also afraid I may get into an argument with someone for slamming into me on the sidewalk, which they also do. I saw a couple slam into and knock an old lady almost into the street because they had to go 2 abreast 2 mornings ago. She stumbled and if she had stumbled one more step she would have fallen into the busy, busy street. They assume everyone will get out of their way, but I think many of them want to hurt a person. I know a few guys have run into me.

Last Summer, one walking beside his friends slammed into my shoulder and kept going with that smug seattle grin, even though he had slammed into my shoulder bone and taken my breath away it hurt so much. What was I going to do? I turned around and watched them striding along, knowing what they did, and what was I going to do? Start something with 3 big guys and his girl? And have them do something like blind me and pretend it was an accident? And these were middle class dressed, late 20's early 30's guys and his girl. Even if the guys didn't do anything, there are big-mouth bitches here that lay into you for nothing. Big bare-legged, fat-legged bitches. The women here have the fattest legs, and they show them off like they were pork shanks in those sausage-casing type leggings.

People downtown here at the least are the kind who are passive agressive and would have been the kind of kid who would leave the school desk, and leave an upright tack or 2 for whoever sat in it next. And it wouldn't matter who. I was running across the street the other night and cars were coming and this woman came right to the exact gap in cars where I could duck into and blocked my way, just standing there. Probably because I was jaywalking, so I was in the wrong and needed to be punished. She was a huge tank, too.

Posted by heartbroken almost 8 years ago in passive agressive sidewalk-knocking - Permalink

saved my life


i think this site will save my life. i've been here 1.5 years, and i've been hurt by so many people. they are relentlessly cruel in nature. i'm white, and i'm talking about mostly the white people. they're sick.

it is really helping to read your posts, because even though it makes me sad to, so much is also my experience, and everyone here tries to make me believe it's just me.


Posted by heartbroken almost 8 years ago in the terrible people - Permalink

Why I Can't Stand Seattle


I moved to Seattle for school, from the mid-atlantic. I plan on leaving when I'm done.

I do hate Seattle because of the weather, but not because of the clouds or rain. I used to live in Pittsburgh. We had plenty of that. I hate the sorry attempt that Seattle makes at actual winter or summer. I hate when people whine about it being 'hot' and 'muggy' when it's 80 degrees with a 50% humidity. Hot? Are you kidding me? Try 95 with 95% humidity. Stop whining. I actually miss hot humid days and not being cold when I go outside in the morning. I miss actually having snow. Eternal fall and spring (and a cold one at that) are not my idea of good weather. Summer here is NOT beautiful. I have to wear a jacket in the summer, what is up with that? Sure, it looks nice outside, but I want it to feel like SUMMER.

Construction, I don't really care about. Maybe they could have better public transit. A light rail would be nice, but it's not terrible as is. Traffic isn't so bad for me, but I don't usually drive during peak hours, so I really don't know. Drivers, though, are quite passive aggressive. Also, pretty dumb. At a traffic circle, you go AROUND counterclockwise to turn left. At a 4-way stop, you wait for the cars that stopped before you. Is that really so hard? If you're a pedestrian, it is unwise to dart into traffic whenever you feel like it. Also dumb: running across the road, and then slowing down when you reach the lane where a car is coming. Yeah, you have a right to cross the road as a pedestrian, but you can also be friendlyand patient and wait for cars to pass. You're not any better than me because you're a pedestrian (or a bicyclist) so stop acting like it. I'll be nice to you, but you need to be nice to me. Don't treat me like a dick just because I'm driving a car.

These really aren't the big things though. I really dislike most of the people. There is a passive-aggressive tendency inherent in the population. Also, people judge others on HUGE stereotypes. For instance, if I say I'm from the east coast, your first response is, "wow, everyone's just so mean there!" If someone says they're from the midwest, the reply might be something like "oh, well I guess you're glad you made it out of there." Seriously, have you been to the East Coast? Yeah, people are mean, if you're stupid! Don't be a dick, and they won't be mean to you! You really think the Midwest is so bad? How much time have you spent there?

People are lumped into stereotypical groups and can't hold opinions and be treated like real human beings. People in Seattle try to drive away others who disagree with them. Just on one of these other posts I saw someone say, "Well, Seattle hates you too." Way to try to be inclusive and understand, asshole. This is why people hate you in the first place. If you disagree with someone in Seattle, they just hate you. If you don't fit in to their 'culture', they hate you. Of course, they don't come right out and tell you. You're just treated ike less of a human being. I've watched this happen to others. Furthermore, people feel like their opinions must be plastered everywhere. Great, you like democrats. Do you see a lot of people disagreeing with you? You're in a city, almost EVERYONE likes democrats. The population of the city doesn't embrace diversity like it wants to. It clings on to race and gender, and doesn't think about diversity of opinion, class, belief. It just talks about issues anyway, and never does anything about them. Most of the people I encounter are homogeneous. They all have the same beliefs, the same political alignments, the same lifestyles. The neighborhoods are mostly the same. Sure, one has a troll, and some a few more hipsters than the others. But, I have no need to go to a 20 different farmer's markets. They're all the same. Haven't you seen a farmer's market? Yeah, it's great, but, it's just a farmer's market! What is wrong with you? I don't care about another independent book shop or independent coffee shop. Are they really all that different? It's coffee and books, for crying out loud!

What does it say about the city when the two most popular attractions are an observation tower that isn't all that tall and a farmer's market? Where's the history? Where's the ACTUAL culture? People are too busy cherishing 'culture' and trying to be 'creative' and 'independent' themselves that they end up not embracing a culture that may have already existed. Seattle now has little culture, and people just keep trying to force it. The culture it does have is entirely homogeneous, exclusive, and passive aggressive. Really, people aren't all that much smarter here either. Yeah, there are some smart people (as you get anywhere), but most people go around espousing some new found facts that they just read from some sensational book. Great, you can read. Now, stop trying to tell me how stupid I am, and start actually discussing something, you pretentious ass. If you had one semblance of original thought then I might actually think that you're smart. If you were willing to think about an idea rather than just assume its correctness because you happened to read it somewhere, I might actually think you're smart.

Unfortunately, Seattle ends up being a city full of people who want it to be great, and keep pushing in the wrong directions. Some people genuinely love it. Good for them, I hope they enjoy it. Others do not. I am included in that lot.

Posted by poopytown almost 8 years ago in Everything, but mostly people - Permalink

Honest assessment by a returning Seattlelite


Born, raised and went to high school here. Town was pretty sleepy, lovely and had solid core values. Went away to college, grad school, lived in 'big' cities. Returned for family reasons a couple of years ago.

The sad news: the city is actually worse than it was when I left.

How can this be? With all the favorable press out there, you'd think this city would be nirvana to a returning 'local'.

I'll keep this short unless anyone wants more details.

Seattle as a city is way, WAY ahead of itself. It's a provincial burg run by natives for natives, with all that entails. Liberal politically, but in all other respects, conservative and pretty surprisingly passive. I really liked it when (during the Dec snowstorm) there was a furious woman on the local news saying 'this place is a joke...in new york when it snows, the supers come out and sweep the sidewalks!'

So if the people are too stupid/lazy/selfish to sweep sidewalks after a snowstorm, how do you explain the fact that the average joe and josephine are really pretty nice?

Politeness, never calling someone on something dishonest or cruel, true passivity in the worse sense.

Contrary to reputation, Seattlelites are not that smart, and certainly have no political will or leadership except to fall in line with cherished 'liberal' causes.

So why is there so much apathy and anomie among this well-educated population? First, of course, I thought of the weather (which is truly dreadful unless you like gray). Then I thought, a tragic intersection of Nordic stoicism and Asian passivity. Then I moved on to the quasi-police state run by truly ill-qualified city workers and the huge, huge policeforce which is getting paid to be our nanny and is self-funding with its tickets and multiple violations of everything minute legal issue in the code. Why they even give tickets for not signalling 100 feet before a turn! Yes, Virginia, to put it crudely, this city is a municipal cesspool run by a likely very corrupt local government which everyone is too de-energized to even challenge.

As for the surrounding communities like Shoreline -- God help you, please don't go there. Way too many rednecks in the SPD (including black rednecks believe or not) --- all passing out citations to drum up the revenue mill. Their city council acts suspiciously like South Orange, NJ in its Mafia-infested heyday.

As Dante said, "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here!"

He was referring to Hell, I'm referring to Seattle/King County.

Don't even get me started on the dullness of the quality of life (unless you're in drugs or low-brow music) here. It's a perfect match to the leaden quality of the skies.

Posted by Tom about 8 years ago in In 25 years, the city has actually deteriorated - Permalink

No place like home


Wow. This site is my new best friend.
I moved here for work in September and left Chicago, and all of my friends, because I thought a change of scenery and new challenges would be good for me. I like rain, mountains, the ocean...what's not to love, right? Well, I'll start with a rudimentary list:

1. The public transportation, or lack thereof. With no public transport, it should be called a town. Berg, if you like. Village. But not a metropolis. With all the supposed 'green' thinkers out here, they sure are slow on the uptake getting people out of their cars.

2. That 'green' thing. I'm calling B.S. I've seen just as many S.U.V's, low mileage jeeps, and luxury vehicles as I have biofuel hippie mobiles out here, probably more. Having a solar panel heated home with organic hardwood floors and a hybrid car doesn't make you better than me, or more environmentally concious than me. It makes you a douchebag with so much money that you don't know what else to do with it, and a looming hole of stupidity where your brain should be that is so large you couldn't think to give any of that money to a worthy cause in these extraordinarily dire economic times. Which brings me to my third point...

3. Liberal masks, conservative hearts. Or the alternative title, 'City of passive aggressive racists'. Where are all the black people? Hispanic people? What kind of blindingly Aryan cultural void have I fallen in to?
Yeah, you have a large Asian population, bully for you. You voted for Barack Obama, great. But don't walk around like you're underwear are odor free just because you have an education and like to play at being aligned with 'minorities'. Everyone white lives north, in big houses, with big cars, and the only black people I see are south of the city,enduring what I call reality, sans giant home and car, you bigoted liars. The tragedy here isn't that Seattle is segregated. Every city is. It's that every middle-aged white go-getter with an Obama/Biden ticker taped to his ass thinks he's better than his 'ignorant' midwestern
fellow Americans because he espouses a thoroughly researched and completely put on Liberal philosophy at dinner parties and symphonies. Then he goes home to his very white neighborhood, listens to NPR, and congratulates himself on being so color blind. The worst, most repulsive bigotry in existence.

Posted by irate about 8 years ago in wealthy, unfriendly people - Permalink

Why laptops at a coffee place??


Okay, I am so tired of going to these starbucks and coffee places that are filled with nothing but these annoying yuppies who just take up all the seats and sit and type on their laptop for hours. WHY CAN'T YOU JUST DO THAT AT HOME?? And they take up all the seats in the coffee place so there's place for anyone else to sit and drink their coffee and eat their food. Seriously... why do they feel the need to go on their laptop at some starbucks when you can do that at home. Honestly... it's starting to piss me off along with many others out there.

Posted by gena93 about 8 years ago in Yuppies!!! - Permalink

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