I Hate Seattle

Density of the Densest


My roots are far into the backwoods country where we never really domesticated pets (had 11 cats in one house, let them run feral), no public transit, and for "fun" people tie a sled to the back of a truck and drag it through a farm field. The epitome of "redneck" if you will (there aren't even taxis in my place of origin). It's extremely dirt poor, in terms of finances, and a lot of neighborhoods don't even have sidewalks.

With that said, people, for the most part, help each other out (even if they don't necessarily like one another). Otherwise, the town doesn't exist. So, if you have a flat, someone will help you to change your tire or give you a ride or, they, themselves may have chains to tow your vehicle right then and there. Or, even a spare tire in their backyard. Lots of options for those stranded on the road. Obviously, I left for a reason, but I do appreciate the sincerity that exists in terms of "I help you, I don't expect anything in return. I'm not going to hit on you or stalk you because you're attractive etc. and I just helped you, and now feel entitled to be in your life after a 10 minute interaction."

Once, I was driving through a town called Woodinville (Seattle Eastside) which, at first had a similar vibe to my "hometown." Wrong! One night, I happened to be broken down on the side of the road. It was late at night, and the car stalled while I was driving around a curvy part of the road. I put on my fourway flashers and tried to flag someone down. Even though my flashers were on, it was difficult to see the car, which I thought was extremely dangerous.

I can't tell you how many cars drove by MY car while I was flagging someone for help! It took about 10 or 15 MINUTES to have someone stop to help. In the meantime, I looked into the window of other cars and saw people texting, eating sandwiches, talking on the phone, etc. I did flag a group of Indian men down, but they seemed to be of the Microsoft "text speak" camp and were even texting while I was trying to gesture they help to move the car off the road. I tried to explain that the car was a hazard to everyone's safety and that it needed to be pushed off the road - immediately! But, anyone with common sense would know that, right? They DROVE AWAY!


Several other folks stopped by, and *didn't know what to do!* "Um, push the damn car off the road!" I knew what was wrong with the car, but it just needed to be off the road for safety reasons. No quick thinking from anyone passing by, whatsoever. People actually tried to have a conversation with me while I was standing there in about 30 degree weather, freezing my ass off and just wanting the car to get into a safe location - for everyone!

A conversation? What in the hell?

I was livid! I did a meditation and magically the car started itself! I was able to drive it off the road into a more secure location and do what needed to be done to repair it.

Lesson Learned: In the State of Washington - get AAA and don't trust that your "friendly" neighbor is going to help you. Well, maybe here and there, but not at large, no sir.

Posted by runlikehell3 7 months ago in stupidity, dense, hipster crap - Permalink

Run Like Hell, You'll Need an Exorcism if you Stay


Oh my word! Where to begin? Seattle, it's "Eastside" cohorts (consisting of Kirkland, Bellevue, Brothell and the like), and the entire State of Washington are a collective of Narcissists (yes capital N) who enable each other's ill behavior and exist in pyramids of narcissistic nepotism that go something like this: Born in Washington State, attend the University of Washington, LIVE AT HOME, commute downtown or to a "satellite campus" (Brothell has the University of Washington - Cascadia satellite campus), have your parents pay for everything while you are a GROWN UP with four limbs and an able body making no attempt to pay your own way through anything" or develop your own ideas independent of your "family" or FAKE AS BACON "friends," verbally abuse your housemates (if applicable), "friends" and romantic partners because your parents didn't raise you to have etiquette and you didn't seek to learn about life outside "Washington State" and are too narcissistic to seek psychotherapy, (in the event you seek psychotherapy, there is a 90% chance your psychotherapist is also a clock-punching narcissist with a diploma mill degree who will hand you a sheet of yes/no questions to fill out of "how depressed" you are as opposed to asking open ended questions to help you to expand your worldview), prey on innocent international exchange students via covert hazing and mind-control techniques to get them into your "cult," start a non-profit because you have no skills to work for a real business or start a "real business" of your own, mis-manage the non-profit because you went to a school that taught you jack about human communication and money management (even though your parents had loads), form cliques with your FAKE AS BACON "friends" who will work at your non-profit, yet turn on you in a millisecond (i.e. your car breaks down or you lose your housing you will have no one to ride you to a repair shop or a couch to crash on). when your friends turn on you beg your parents for "help", go back and live at home for no other reason than the fact you can't manage your money or relationships properly, in the event you have real addiction issues or something of the sort, receive NO support from your "family" or "friends" and are left hanging by the State which has no services for the handful of folks out there seeking real help, are frustrated at the lack of State services to get "help" and repeat the vicious cycle by enrolling in a "master's" program at.... guess where? The University of Washington! Continue your master's at your nepotinistic school, or a diploma mill school, continue to enroll in school because "the real world" scares you and you can't communicate to a supervisor at a real business, likely enroll in diploma mill schools such as Capella University to get an "online" PhD and never have to have a real dissertation committee review and criticize your work. Teach at The University of Washington and become subservient to the staff, your FAKE AS BACON "friends" and work alongside many aunts, uncles, and parents who think it's naughty to exercise real "academic freedom" laws or "whistleblower" laws because it *may* offend someone. And, well, we cannot offend anyone, now can we, in the narcissistic State of Washington?

How's that for brunch?

Posted by runlikehell3 7 months ago in narcissism, about face, etiquitte - Permalink

Seattle slipped into hell


So, three years here. I've always wanted to come here to this area; the PNW. So, east side I like it, it's great, people are more talkative, rain's SLIGHTLY more then Seattle. (For your info I ACTUALLY moved here for the rain. TOTAL disappointment. :( . ) So, I live in Seattle, three years now, I try to get out of the city as much as humanly possible. I say hi on the east side, start a random convo, it goes so so. I try it here, comment on a persons phone, jacket, backpack, hair, shoes, glasses, whatever I notice. Nothing. I say hi. Nothing. I say, oh nice phone. Nothing. I say hows your day, nothing. I was on the bus several times.

Most recently a young girl, early 20's, was texting, not paying attention, not holding onto the hand rails. Three times, she starts falling back, bus comes to a sudden stop. She is about to fall, I put my arm around her three times to catch her. Not one time did she thank me, she just giggled. WTF?? It's not like I did it to be thanked but still, I did it without thinking all three times, but not even a acknowledgement I exist. Time before a girl in heels, falling backwards, then forward, failiing at balancing, and paying attention. I grab her, put my arm around her to catch her since I have to leap across from where I'm standing few feet away to catch her. Her response, stare at my arm, stare at me, stare at my arm, stare at me. Then just stare at me, for ten seconds, not a word. I finally say are you okay? A Nod. Wow.

I get up for people on the bus, for women, for elderly, especially for a woman in high heels, seriously. Wearing that on the bus, what a fail. Am I thanked? No, 90% of the time nothing. I seem to be the only guy though taking my time to get up for other people. I guess it's to hard for people from here to be a gentleman. I go to Starbucks, I see people 24/7 leaving their ipods, laptops, phones, etc on the table, going to the bathroom. I say to people shouldn't you take that with you, someone can take that. Nothing. Maybe sometimes they say oh it's fine. Yet when someone takes it they cry about it, common sense.

Common sense is a other thing that isn't here. If I'm waiting in line at a store, or cafe, or etc, you see me in line, then you just get in front of me as I'm about to order, and you're dressed all fancy, you sir, are either blind or a douche. This happens I don't know how many times. I just look at the cashier with a WTF face, they say nothing. I sometimes order from the cafes, barista is staring at me, with a very weird look, not really talking. I go out of my way to talk to them, how is your day, what coffee roast do you think is the best, are you okay? How do you like working here? One word responses. Dude, customer service here sucks ass.

The FEW people in Seattle who talk to me, they grill me hard, wanting to know every detail about my past. Asking for exact details, ..creepy. Then if I ask questions in return, they stare at me like I'm weird for asking..um, no you're the one asking me, instead of a normal damn conversation. So this takes me to the rain. What rain?! Omg, I came here FOR THE RAIN, I actually miss it, it rained more 3 years ago, now it seems to rain few days a month at most..so depressing. IT's hot here, like pretty hot in the summer, way to sunny and blue. This fees NOTHING like the PNW portrayed in docs, movies, tv shows, vlogs, etc. Frak you climate change.

The traffic is one sick fraking joke. I can not go anywhere at mid afternoon ie rush hour, if I do I know it'll take over 2 hours to go from Seattle to the east side or south, etc. It took 50 minutes to go 9 blocks DT seattle caught in traffic, driver refused to let me off, I could have WALKED faster, being completely serious. I take transit because I actually care about our enviorment unlike all these aholes here in the PNW who just HAVE to have a car or 2, when we have oen of the best transit systems I've ever seen. space is at a premium YET you still must have your car? REALLY? Even when there is a bus stop RIGHT in front of your house. I see 2 cars in the drive way. We have commuter vans, we have ride shares, jesus man.

The puget sound is so damn nasty. IT smells funny and why is it so green?! Some bus drivers are complete douche bags, I say hi, nothing. I say hows it going, nothing. I ask about a stop, nothing, just stares. I get people who stare at me, most of the time it's females, from across the cafe, just staring, no smiling, no nasty looks, no trying to start a convo just staring..to the point even as a out going guy, I feel uncomfortable. I've started a new policy though, if someone stares at me. I will stand up, walk right to them and ask them hi, whatcha staring at? HOws it going?

Just like I've REFUSED to be as low as these Seattle people. When I see stuck up people giving me nasty looks, I'm not using the newest iphone like them, or my backpack looks too full. ITS CALLED PACKING A JACKET! I'll go right up and say what the hell is your problem. THey look at me like I'm crazy and I'll repeat my question. I say right to their face do we have a problem here. THis place is turning me into a wound up, anger filled, douche in return. I've even noticed that sometimes I wont say hi to people when they do say hi, just because I'm so spurred by the people here. Thanks for that Seattle. But I wont let them fill me with hate like most people have let Seattle do to them. Even though I say openly screw you Seattle. I can just move to the east side, or the Olympics and meet people who are actually friendly.

Posted by JustASpecter 7 months ago in People, construction, traffic, the people - Permalink

Finally leaving!


Without getting into details, I have been living in and nearby Seattle now for about two years for reasons outside of my control. Just last week, I finally gained the opportunity to return to my home city in the South, and am in the process of packing up and sorting through my affairs.

I didn't want to hate Seattle, Washington state, or the Pacific Northwest at first. The trouble started, however, when I realized I was being treated differently here than anywhere else I'd lived.

Nothing but the most mundane promises to me were ever kept unless I (like so many Seattlites) threatened legal action. Confiding in someone I thought I knew well (or had even lived with for months) led to them floridly assuring me that they would always have my back, then gossiping to everyone they'd ever met about me immediately after our conversation ended; one private conversation including my personally identifying info even went out to the other person's Facebook friendslist of, not kidding, over 1,200 people.

After some more time here, I realized that I wasn't the only person treated in such a conniving and underhanded way here. The culture of Seattle comes across as self-centered, obviously, but not such that the path of least resistance is always taken. Although they sure seem to enjoy being left alone themselves, given the opportunity, way too many Seattlites are prone to meddle in your affairs and go to great lengths to invade your space while simultaneously acting like nothing's wrong. "Mind your own business" carries virtually no weight here compared to where I'm from; oftentimes, it seems like there's no such thing as "your own business" here, and despite the city's eclectic and tolerant image, the nail that sticks out gets hammered down hard.

At the risk of sounding less than totally coherent, I'll summarize my issue with the atmosphere here as follows: I don't understand the choice to live the way Seattlites do. I'd hate to limit essentially all human contact to small talk and the city's typically awkward negotiations of personal space on the sidewalk. I can't imagine getting so angry over hearing music on the bus (a welcome break from sniffles, coughs, and anxiety-ridden basket cases whispering to themselves) that I'd descend into a screaming temper tantrum. Also, what the fuck is up with people standing in one spot and staring daggers at me when I'm sitting on a bench? Either ask if you can sit or just go ahead and sit! This type of creepy behavior isn't considered normal almost anywhere else on the planet but here!

To summarize: Seattle, chill out and mind your own damn business.

I have many more issues with the culture and mindset here, but don't feel like writing a dissertation. Also, Nazi commenters fuck off.

Posted by B-Master 8 months ago in culture, passive-aggressiveness, isolation, atmosphere, loneliness - Permalink

the darkness


the darkness.

When does one get used to the perennial darkness?

The people are nice enough, but the darkness is giving me cabin fever. Depending upon the person I am talking to, the sun may show up in April, May, June, or July, and last until Sept.

Who is lying to me?

Posted by drube 8 months ago in the darkness - Permalink

Mandatory License Retesting


It made me feel good to see that the state police of Washington are pushing for mandatory driver's license retesting at certain times. People here are baby stepped anyways, I remember seeing cars with "student driver on board" literally cutting me off and when I beeped the horn the instructor flipped me off and the student swore at me. (Way to go slacker state)

There are reasons why now a majority of people drive slow on the left and brutally ride the ass of people on the right. It is clearly illegal and I hope that mandatory retesting will teach the people here how wrong they are. It makes no sense for people in cars to literally yell at you to pull over waaaaaay before ambulances appear, but the same people have no clue about not going slow on the left. This place sets the bar so low and then the passive aggressive, noise in the air sociopaths decide that bar is too rudely high and then go against it. Mandatory retesting might help filter out these types.

Maybe after this they can teach the locals to wipe their butts, or at least how to use turn signals. One can hope.

Posted by heretoolong 8 months ago in - Permalink

Seattle is a Horrifying Cesspool of Utter Bullshit


I moved to Seattle with my boyfriend towards the end of the summer. We both grew up around the D.C. area and had spent most of our adult lives there. We were tired of the scene, and decided to move to a more accepting and diverse city, so we decided on Seattle.

What a bad move that was.

1. Looking for work was hell:

I am a well educated person with two degrees and work experience, and the best I could do after a month of searching was a minimum wage job in food service. Granted, minimum wage here is pretty decent, but for the cost of living...?? I literally would go days without eating because I couldn't afford to buy groceries. I often had to choose between groceries and rent.

2. Judgmental as hell:

The people here are the literal WORST. And that's coming from someone who grew up in D.C./Northern VA rich ass white people area. I have never felt more judged or marginalized in my entire life. I smoke sometimes, and I would always make sure that I smoked behind my place of business, by the dumpsters, so as not to offend non-smokers. People would park their cars sort of near where I was smoking, and hustle their children as far away from me as they could, while staring me down like I had a gun pointed at them. Whenever I tried to be friendly and talk to people and interact with people who came into the place I worked, I got shot down. No one- and I mean NO ONE- gives a shit about you or how your day is. I would always be friendly and greet people when they came into the store, and they wouldn't even look at me or acknowledge my existence. They'd place their order while looking behind me, and then throw their money at me like I wasn't really there. I'm 25 years old and I've worked in food service a long time, but I literally had a breakdown at work one day and had to leave because I couldn't stand how rude people were being to me. It's very hard to deal with those people 8 hours a day/ 6 days a week and not start to take it personally.

3. Disappointing as Hell:

I thought this city was for artists and musicians. I thought it was for creatives who pushed against the grain. I thought it was for revolutionaries who wanted to change the world. I couldn't have been more wrong. Maybe this is how it was 20 years ago, but now Seattle will drain the life out of you and steal all your money, hope, dreams, and your will to live. The only people who could possibly thrive here are the wealthy. I literally had to leave or kill myself: that was what it came down to. This city sucked the life out of me and destroyed my relationship. My now ex-boyfriend is still there, playing his guitar, trying to make it work. But he's miserable, paying $700 a month to live in a 10x10 cinderblock icebox in somebody's basement. Seattle is just a playground for the wealthy, where they can park their fancy cars, and their fancy boats, and their fancy aircraft and then shit all over anyone else. I'm never going back there.

Posted by aubrey 9 months ago in rain, people, work - Permalink

Narcissist Heaven


It has taken me a long time to finally realize that this state (not just Seattle) tends to be a narcissist's dream. As a transplant from the east coast I am regularly stunned at the bravado here, the intentionally boastful, better than you attitude that I see. People here either shove their colors in your face, or move out of the way and passively slip by those who do. There is no equality here. Teamwork is impossible. Communication is the enemy. I worked in several different lines of work and in each one I had young bosses who wanted to be worshipped, not questioned. Or older bosses who wanted to be lazy and blame those beneath them for problems. Narcissists simply WANT to do things, or be kings of things, and they hate having to show they are qualified or worthy of such position. So many times I kept my mouth shut, convinced that the person would realize how wrong they were. Nope. Time and time again I watched the person lie and brag their way to get whatever they wanted. And god forbid you expect them to deliver the goods. What makes it worse is that the culture here ACCEPTS such flawed people and baby steps them. But you will never get such lenience when you stand against a narcissist here. That is a big no no. This area views YOU as having the problem and will rain down aggression upon you.

Posted by heretoolong 9 months ago in narcissistic culture - Permalink

Seattle can't even make a breakfast sandwhich


Yeah I went to this samdwhich shop in the U-District and the fiybkept asking me to refine my order, because apparently I wasn't speajing clearly enough when I asked for a simple "breakfast sandwhich." I've spent no more than a week in NYC. I was in Queens and just about every morning I'd go to a new spot for breakfast. Each time the food was excellent and all I had to do was ask for a breakfast sandwhich, no retunings or refinings required. I leave this Seattle spot knawing on a two giant loaves of bread and a little butter and egg that somehow likes to slide around in the middle (I try to bite into the them, but I keep missing because they are so slippery). I recoil in absolute disgust. I glance back at the cornerstore and I notice a "Best Sandwhiches" emblazoned on the blue awning. Clearly, somebody hasn't been sued for false advertising. Clearly, someone should. :~\

Posted by Pbhressays 9 months ago in sandwhiches - Permalink

Why don't women just wear makeup?


For all the complaining about women being unattractive it wouldn't be a problem if they just wore make-up. So many Seattle women complain about not being able to find the "right guy" yet they don't even follow up on basic expectations. The irony is that there are honestly more men focused on being pretty than there are women. Sad, but true.

Also, lesbianism is a crock of crap, imho.

Posted by Pbhressays 9 months ago in Women - Permalink

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